dan_heinrich
Active member
Paul,
Linda and I have known you and your lovely wife, Katherine for 15 years and consider both of you to be good friends. In fact if it wasn't for Katherine, I would have never agreed to be ICSCC President for two years.
I also want things to be done right and fair.
The only reason we are having this discussion is because of a rule change for the 2015 race season, which the drivers approved, eliminating the requirement having to receive the checkered flag. A driver now just has to complete half the laps to receive a finish. FYI - I personally voted against this rule change.
One of the unintended consequences of this rule change was the issue of weighing the top three finishers after the race. In your situation, there were two cars in class so both cars were required to weigh or be disqualified for failing to weigh after the race. The problem with this is what do you do when the car that is in the top three, has suffered so much damage that it can't be physically put on to the scales. Do they get DQ'd, because if they weren't in the top three, they would still get a finish.
Rule 714. All class winners shall be weighed when applicable and where possible.
We had two cars that weekend which were originally DQ'd for not going across the scales because one was totaled and caught on fire and the other one had a broken suspension. In reviewing our decision to DQ those cars, the Steward's felt the "where possible" wording gave us the latitude to say if the car is unable to be pushed onto the scales, the requirement to weigh after the race would be waived.
This opinion was presented to the Competition Committee and was approved in a 7 to 1 vote. The Competition Committee is defined in Rule 414 for drivers who may not know what the Competition Committee is. The wording of Rule 714 spelling out this policy will be voted on this year by the Contest Board and hopefully will be approved.
My only wish is that in your situation the cars in question were reversed - your car had broken and was unable to go across the scales. That way you would have been the beneficiary of the Stewards decision.
Paul, all I can say is the rules don't get stretchy if you have the Stewards favour. All three of the Stewards want things to be done right and fair, that is what we thought we were doing when we made the decision.
Respectfully submitted,
Dan Heinrich
Asst Race Steward
Linda and I have known you and your lovely wife, Katherine for 15 years and consider both of you to be good friends. In fact if it wasn't for Katherine, I would have never agreed to be ICSCC President for two years.
I also want things to be done right and fair.
The only reason we are having this discussion is because of a rule change for the 2015 race season, which the drivers approved, eliminating the requirement having to receive the checkered flag. A driver now just has to complete half the laps to receive a finish. FYI - I personally voted against this rule change.
One of the unintended consequences of this rule change was the issue of weighing the top three finishers after the race. In your situation, there were two cars in class so both cars were required to weigh or be disqualified for failing to weigh after the race. The problem with this is what do you do when the car that is in the top three, has suffered so much damage that it can't be physically put on to the scales. Do they get DQ'd, because if they weren't in the top three, they would still get a finish.
Rule 714. All class winners shall be weighed when applicable and where possible.
We had two cars that weekend which were originally DQ'd for not going across the scales because one was totaled and caught on fire and the other one had a broken suspension. In reviewing our decision to DQ those cars, the Steward's felt the "where possible" wording gave us the latitude to say if the car is unable to be pushed onto the scales, the requirement to weigh after the race would be waived.
This opinion was presented to the Competition Committee and was approved in a 7 to 1 vote. The Competition Committee is defined in Rule 414 for drivers who may not know what the Competition Committee is. The wording of Rule 714 spelling out this policy will be voted on this year by the Contest Board and hopefully will be approved.
My only wish is that in your situation the cars in question were reversed - your car had broken and was unable to go across the scales. That way you would have been the beneficiary of the Stewards decision.
Paul, all I can say is the rules don't get stretchy if you have the Stewards favour. All three of the Stewards want things to be done right and fair, that is what we thought we were doing when we made the decision.
Respectfully submitted,
Dan Heinrich
Asst Race Steward
