Military Salute Official Race Results

jc_cuevas

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Are we planning to post the "official" race results for the Military Salute race last weekend? ................... the slow group 3 guys want to know. :)
 
I'll post 'em when I get 'em. I just got the results for Portland a few days ago and I'm STILL waiting for the enduro results.
 
I'll post 'em when I get 'em. I just got the results for Portland a few days ago and I'm STILL waiting for the enduro results.

Thank you Steve. I appreciate all your efforts and the excellent work you have done to improve the web site. I am sure all of us share the same sentiment.

I look forward to the race results; ............... whenever you can post them.

J.C.
 
No, they're not: There are some oddities in the PDFs I posted, so I've pulled them for now. (As fast as Duke Goss' new car is, for example, I don't think he ran a 1'07" lap at Pacific, do you? :D)
 
No, they're not: There are some oddities in the PDFs I posted, so I've pulled them for now. (As fast as Duke Goss' new car is, for example, I don't think he ran a 1'07" lap at Pacific, do you? :D)


I saw that when I printed out copies. I thought..wait a minute Duke is fast but......faster then all time track record?
 
Since Duke ran a 1:07 and was on my a$$ the whole time, I must have had a 1:06 :)

When does SPEED interview me and I get my NASCAR Ride? :eek:

RP
 
Rod, and I say this 'cause I know you're DYING to, you can say "ass" on this forum. Then again, with you wandering around the paddock in your undies all day Sunday, we've probably all SEEN yours...
 
Funny you should mention that, 'cause when I was wandering in my long J's, my wife simply called me a dumbass!

Boy, that felt good.

RP
 
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did they cut the novice cw race a lap short. I see a car that "finished ahead" of me that i passed on the last lap in 3a. just wondering
 
It is generally accepted that the License Director (Randy Blaylock) is the de facto steward for the novices. The Race Steward (Mike Blazack) and his back-up singers (Bill Spornitz, and in technical matters Dave Bennit) have dominion over the souls of the Senior Drivers. The Area Drivers are tormented by all of the above. (In practice though, if I were a novice I would suggest that if one of the Senior Stewards instructs you to do something it would likely be wise to refrain from saying "You are not the boss of me!!!" even if it has great comedic value.)

As to novice race results - a perfect showing for a novice is any finishing place not followed by "passed under yellow" or "avoidable contact". There will be plenty of time to worry about your finishing position when your Area License qualifies you to join the Senior Race Groups. Until then, be thankful for invisibility as it serves you well.

Go forth and be blackflagged no more, may you have the blessing of horsepower without end and brakes that fade not all the days of your life.
 
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Sure Ken, I'm the first stop for Novices and their issues. I'll gladly do what I can to field their questions, and forward them onto the ROD. Grammatical error intentional, and in jest.

For what it's worth, my personal results are incorrect too. They were incorrect provisionally, corrected in the first published pdf iteration, and when the corrected version was published, incorrect yet again.

Again, for what it's worth, my personal results for the last group of the day at Portland were also incorrect. As were the entire group's results, but since appear to have been sorted out. Obviously the problems aren't exclusive to any one member club. I don't envy Mike B.

As a side personal issue, I still disagree with the Portland results, but it's my fault for not understanding the limitations of the system. The utility that determines finishing order must be the transponder only, since I know for a fact I beat Rod to the line by a mere few inches, and he agrees, yet he is shown ahead of me in the results. I didn't appreciate that the transponder placement on the car was all that critical until I asked Rod where his was mounted, and he told me near the front of his car. Mine used to be on the rear frame rail. It's near the front now.

All these issues with timing and scoring, and results, have been a personal frustration for me, for years now actually, and I'm sure that I'm not alone. Racing by definition is ultimately measured by results, and when they're weeks if not months in the waiting, and many times incorrect, frankly it detracts from the experience. One of the guys in my class that only races occasionally with Conference asked me where he could view results so he could share his excitement with his friends that haven't yet run with Conference in hopes of convincing them to come out. I had to tell him that the results usually don't get published for some time, sorry. It really seemed like a missed opportunity frankly. We are fairly unique in this area unfortunately, and I'm not sure why.

Now please let me say without qualification that I appreciate the efforts by the timing and scoring people. As a Conference volunteer myself, I appreciate that these people are also volunteers and have our best interests at heart. It has got to be an incredibly difficult job, under difficult circumstances. The problems cannot have anything to do with their committment, it has got to be a problem of equipment and technology.

The question then is, what can we as Conference do to make the timing and scoring job easier and more accurate, and able to be published immediately?
 
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As a side personal issue, I still disagree with the Portland results..... since I know for a fact I beat Rod to the line by a mere few inches, and he agrees, yet he is shown ahead of me in the results.

Hmmm forced me to look. The Portland results PDF that show up when I click on the "race result" on the Schedule page shows Randy Blaylock 2nd overall and Rod Powell 3rd overall. Also shows RB and RP 2nd and 3rd in class. Seeming to confirm that Mr. Blaylock crossed the S/F line ahead of Mr. Powell.

Had to look because I thought you 2 might be deep in the pack which can cause that .... LOL wasn't I foolish? :)

The extent of my activities in race organization do not go beyond lowly corner work. However, from listening on the radio and discussiona with various people with far more knowledge then I have, the race leaders ARE tracked by the starter(s). Perhaps on a good day at least 5 or 6 deep in the field. Order of finish IS determined by observation at the S/F line for at least 4 or 5 deep and the starters try to do better.

I think the Starter(s) at least keep these records in case they are asked for them (might not be an automatic turn in). And on occasion when things are ultra tight at the line, they will read off the order to T&S (but not often). HOWEVER, they do always call the checker flag car. So, if you're in a really, really tight race and want the results to be correct, make sure you're 1/2 overall. Problem solved :)

After that, it's almost impossible for them to track the entire field by hand at the S/F line. Sooo, as you go deeper in to the pack some results may indeed vary based upon the AMB triggering.

We could mount our AMB about 2.5 feet further forward in the nose. But they say it's always good to 'protect it'. As I sit here pondering that, if the AMB is in the nose and gets damaged, that is the LEAST expensive of our problems!
 
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Thanks for the reference point Richard. The race I was referencing was the G1/SPO results. We were 3/4, but it was inches. Good fun regardless.
 
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